That's how it is for most mortals. All kinds of monsters and items appear differently than they do to people like us because it's what their minds can accept. The Mist makes it so that things like swords look like baseball bats. Or monstrous birds look like regular park pigeons.
Well no, we kind of are there to prevent people from dying in the first place as best as we can. And it's not like they crawled out of anywhere. They've sort of always been around. When the gods moved with civilization, so did everything else.
Mount Olympus is at the top of the Empire State Building. [ yeah. ] And we try not to really use technology because it makes it that much easier for monsters to track us. But otherwise yeah the gods have continued living and where there's gods there's monsters, other beings who keep trying to overthrow the gods and reclaim the world, and...the children of the gods.
Yeah. Civilization went westward, and so did they. The Olympians stayed in New York, and the Romans are based in California. [ he tilts his head a little though, going back to briefly searching through book titles for anything maybe useful. ]
Most of them haven't stopped, but three of them have. There was a pact made so no more children could be sired after a certain point, and...well. Two of them broke that pact. Zeus broke it twice. But after that, there haven't been any other children from those three.
That’s their loss, I guess. [ says tama, Japanese AI. ] Although I guess the summers there might be a little better than the ones we get…? Just a little.
Oh, the… Zeus-Poseidon-Hades trio? Why’d the decide to stop having children? Or… decide and then fail step one.
Maybe. I wouldn't really have a good comparison to be honest.
[ but he nods. sure. is he surprised she knows that specific trio? not really. ]
Yes, them. It was a pact they'd made several years ago. The three of them had decided that because their children were too powerful they would make a vow on the Styx not to have any more kids. It was because of the Great Prophecy as well, once they heard the prophecy from the Oracle. The prophecy was about a child of the Big Three being responsible for the rise or fall of Olympus someday.
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As to why Zeus and Poseidon didn't keep their oath...they're gods. It's not exactly that surprising.
[ i’m not used to playing someone who gets lore monday, w0 canon wise. is that what playing nice, friendly people is like? wow. ]
“Unfortunately, Zeus was horny”? [ sorry, that’s his uncle. ] You’d think the potential downfall of an age-old… institution? [ do they call it that?? ] Would be enough for them to keep it in their pants.
You'd think, but it wasn't. Zeus ended up siring two kids with the same woman--[ here he kind of fumbles a little, pausing to think of how to continue. ] Just in both of his aspects. And Poseidon met a mortal woman he fell in love with. Mortals that are chosen by gods have the ability to see the gods as they are instead of what would normally be seen in the Mist. It means they can see monsters and everything, too.
[ it’ll come out eventually… she’s just, y’know. programmed to be a national secret. ]
Aspects?
[ hm. ] So they know the entire time that they’re entering a relationship with someone who isn’t human? It’s not one of those gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss situations where the god just “pretends to be normal” and lies the whole relationship?
Roman and Greek. [ but...hm. ] But yeah, that's about right. They recognize the god for who they are, and the god falls in love with them. Most mortals understand that they can't stay with the gods permanently though. They have other duties to attend to.
Some people understand better than others. Ms. Jackson was more than understanding of what it meant for Poseidon to have to return to his domain. So she raised Percy herself. She has a new mortal husband now, too, who knows about our world. And they had a baby recently.
[ so he thinks at least there's one happy ending. ]
Well... yeah. As long as she wasn't abandoned in the long run, but I guess if they're upfront about it and people still don't believe them, what can you do?
I think...the story went that he offered her a place and she said no because she wanted to stay on Earth? [ which like mad respect for sally jackson. ] But it worked for them.
...anyway. That went sort of off-topic. [ what the hell were they even talking about. this is maybe an out for her, too, if she'd like to leave that conversation alone. ]
I think it was just to make her queen of the sea? Not a full god, but I don't know the details. Percy would know better. As far as I know Ms. Jackson wanted to do things the right, mortal way. And now she's a writer living with her school teacher husband and their daughter in an apartment in Manhattan.
[ a pause. ]
Her son was offered godhood a few times, too, but he also turned it down. Something about that family... [ but he kind of still sounds a little fond about it.
but hm. well yes, it is all related to him but it's debatable how happy he is to talk about it. think, nico, think. oh. right. manticore. law enforcement. ]
We usually don't tell mortals or anything about us. Too hard for them to accept. But there are more of us than people might think. Since the gods moved west, monsters did, too, and since monsters can't exactly harm the gods themselves they turn to the next best thing. [ their kids. ] You learn how to take care of yourself pretty early if you actually want to live, especially when you can't get help from the police or anything.
That's still something. Poseidon must've been really fond of her, then. [ like. super fond. wow. ] Good for her though, sticking to what she wanted.
[ awww.... nico your old crush... ]
Oh, I wouldn't worry too much. I don't know much I count as "mortal" in the tradition sense anyway, if you want a loophole. But I guess it sounds like.... just circumstance. Humans don't have that kind of threat, so they don't worry about it. Or have to think about it. Although -- surely they're at risk from monsters too...? Even if they're not their favourite target.
She was the only one he broke the pact for. But I agree.
[ good for her!!
but he considers that. ]
They're at risk, yeah. It's why we have to kill them before they can hurt other people. But trying to explain what it is they're seeing or what's endangering them is where it can get messy. [ ... ] ...can I ask what you are then?
So people just... die to something they can't see or understand, and it's just a "whoops" situation? That sucks. [ ... ] Imagine if you had goggles or something that people could wear to see these things with... but then you'd have to get them to wear it...
[ hmmmmmmmmm
she's distracted and does not answer the question. ]
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[ and so now it's a global thing. ]
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[ wild. ]
The gods certainly didn’t have any issue having kids in the stories, it doesn’t surprise me they haven’t stopped now either.
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Most of them haven't stopped, but three of them have. There was a pact made so no more children could be sired after a certain point, and...well. Two of them broke that pact. Zeus broke it twice. But after that, there haven't been any other children from those three.
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Oh, the… Zeus-Poseidon-Hades trio? Why’d the decide to stop having children? Or… decide and then fail step one.
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Maybe. I wouldn't really have a good comparison to be honest.
[ but he nods. sure. is he surprised she knows that specific trio? not really. ]
Yes, them. It was a pact they'd made several years ago. The three of them had decided that because their children were too powerful they would make a vow on the Styx not to have any more kids. It was because of the Great Prophecy as well, once they heard the prophecy from the Oracle. The prophecy was about a child of the Big Three being responsible for the rise or fall of Olympus someday.
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As to why Zeus and Poseidon didn't keep their oath...they're gods. It's not exactly that surprising.
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“Unfortunately, Zeus was horny”? [ sorry, that’s his uncle. ] You’d think the potential downfall of an age-old… institution? [ do they call it that?? ] Would be enough for them to keep it in their pants.
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You'd think, but it wasn't. Zeus ended up siring two kids with the same woman--[ here he kind of fumbles a little, pausing to think of how to continue. ] Just in both of his aspects. And Poseidon met a mortal woman he fell in love with. Mortals that are chosen by gods have the ability to see the gods as they are instead of what would normally be seen in the Mist. It means they can see monsters and everything, too.
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Aspects?
[ hm. ] So they know the entire time that they’re entering a relationship with someone who isn’t human? It’s not one of those gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss situations where the god just “pretends to be normal” and lies the whole relationship?
[ she has OPINIONS ]
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Roman and Greek. [ but...hm. ] But yeah, that's about right. They recognize the god for who they are, and the god falls in love with them. Most mortals understand that they can't stay with the gods permanently though. They have other duties to attend to.
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I'm pretty sure the concept of Immortal/Mortal lovers in stories don't tend to end with a happily ever after, for obvious reasons.
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Believe it or not, Poseidon's mortal lover still speaks with him sometimes. And their son's in college now. So it doesn't always end badly, I suppose.
[ let's ignore what happened to both zeus' and hades' mortal lovers for right now. ]
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Some people understand better than others. Ms. Jackson was more than understanding of what it meant for Poseidon to have to return to his domain. So she raised Percy herself. She has a new mortal husband now, too, who knows about our world. And they had a baby recently.
[ so he thinks at least there's one happy ending. ]
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Well... yeah. As long as she wasn't abandoned in the long run, but I guess if they're upfront about it and people still don't believe them, what can you do?
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...anyway. That went sort of off-topic. [ what the hell were they even talking about. this is maybe an out for her, too, if she'd like to leave that conversation alone. ]
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That's a very impressive lady, right there. [ THAT ONE. ]
I don't know. It's all related to you, isn't it? If you were happy to talk about it, I'm happy listening.
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[ a pause. ]
Her son was offered godhood a few times, too, but he also turned it down. Something about that family... [ but he kind of still sounds a little fond about it.
but hm. well yes, it is all related to him but it's debatable how happy he is to talk about it. think, nico, think. oh. right. manticore. law enforcement. ]
We usually don't tell mortals or anything about us. Too hard for them to accept. But there are more of us than people might think. Since the gods moved west, monsters did, too, and since monsters can't exactly harm the gods themselves they turn to the next best thing. [ their kids. ] You learn how to take care of yourself pretty early if you actually want to live, especially when you can't get help from the police or anything.
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[ awww.... nico your old crush... ]
Oh, I wouldn't worry too much. I don't know much I count as "mortal" in the tradition sense anyway, if you want a loophole. But I guess it sounds like.... just circumstance. Humans don't have that kind of threat, so they don't worry about it. Or have to think about it. Although -- surely they're at risk from monsters too...? Even if they're not their favourite target.
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[ good for her!!
but he considers that. ]
They're at risk, yeah. It's why we have to kill them before they can hurt other people. But trying to explain what it is they're seeing or what's endangering them is where it can get messy. [ ... ] ...can I ask what you are then?
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[ hmmmmmmmmm
she's distracted and does not answer the question. ]
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